Wikipedia:Onsuksesvolle voorbladnominasies/2009

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Inhoud 1 Judaïsme 2 Nederland 3 Verenigde State van Amerika 4 Wringkrag 5 Ekonomie van Suid-Afrika

Judaïsme

• Ondersteun - has the words, just needs a few pictures.Bezuidenhout (kontak) 07:45, 9 Januarie 2009 (UTC)
• Gekant - One of the prerequisites for a features article is a list of sources. This article does not list it's sources. Anrie (kontak) 16:52, 9 Januarie 2009 (UTC)

Nederland

• Ondersteun - my and many other afrikaans people's ancestrial homeland.Bezuidenhout (kontak) 07:45, 9 Januarie 2009 (UTC)
• Gekant - geen bronnelys (no list of sources). Anrie (kontak) 16:53, 9 Januarie 2009 (UTC)
• Vraag - jy beteken verwysinings? --Bezuidenhout (kontak) 18:28, 9 Januarie 2009 (UTC)

Sort of. An article either needs a "bronnelys" (list of sources), like in the article Tiemie, or a lot of individual references ("verwysings"), like in the article on Mars. It is not an attack on the article or anything, but to be a "voorbladartikel", an article should either have a "bronnelys" or a significant number of "verwysings". (Even better if it has both!) Any good article should actually have a "bronnelys", but so far we've only been insisting on them for "Voorbladartikels" or articles of which the content is controversial/disputed. Anrie (kontak) 18:44, 9 Januarie 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to be annoying but how should i do bronnelys? i don't often add reference (i should) and just normaly make the article, if you could tell me how to do it, i would gladky add bronnyls to many articles! (just out of interest, what is Bronnelys and Verwysings in engels?)--Bezuidenhout (kontak) 18:56, 9 Januarie 2009 (UTC)

Bronnelys = list of sources; verwysings = references. As a rule, articles from other Wikipedias aren't a valid source, but they are credited (see Amandel or Amerikaanse Revolusie for example.

All you need to do to "do" a bronnelys, is to make a list of the sources for your article, in other words, the names of the books/websites you used to write the article. This makes it possible to 1.) confirm that the information in the article is correct (and the author didn't make it up or simply gave his opinions), 2.) check for plagiarism and 3.) provides the user with a "further reading" section. If you have time (or are interested), you can have a look at en:Wikipedia:Citing sources, or else just ask here if you have any other questions. It's certainly not "annoying" to help other users willing to learn. Rather, it's very much appreciated. Anrie (kontak) 19:10, 9 Januarie 2009 (UTC)

To add: I personally don't feel that articles that are as short as the ones you are creating really need a list of sources, but you are of course welcome to add them. Anrie (kontak) 19:13, 9 Januarie 2009 (UTC)

Ok, i've almost got the hang of it, but do i need to add (1) and (2) everytime i want to give reference to a sentance i make as in: die terrein van baie veldslae tussen die Europese moondhede, en is dit die "die vegkamp van Europa"[1] (Belgie), do i need to make numbers and then refer them at the end? Or is that just making notes at the bottom. I'll try and do an example on Nederland.--Bezuidenhout (kontak) 20:11, 9 Januarie 2009 (UTC)

I also want to ask, HOW do make bronnyls? does it need a certain ISBN number or something? --Bezuidenhout (kontak) 20:14, 9 Januarie 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to answer you on your talk page. Anrie (kontak) 20:16, 9 Januarie 2009 (UTC)

Verenigde State van Amerika

• Ondersteun - a good article for usage maybe not now, but in the future.--Bezuidenhout (kontak) 18:47, 7 Februarie 2009 (UTC) -> I have changed my opinion to Gekant. I forgot about all the refernces when I added the article to this list. --Bezuidenhout (kontak) 16:54, 21 Junie 2009 (UTC)
• Gekant - Slegs 9 verwysings vir so 'n lang artikel is darem bietjie min, veral aangesien daar nie 'n aparte bronnelys is nie. Sewe van die nege verwysings is ook nog van dieselfde bron afkomstig. Anrie (kontak) 10:00, 22 Maart 2009 (UTC)
• Ondersteun. Groete — Adriaan90 (Bespreking • Bydraes) 12:41, 31 Mei 2009 (UTC)
• Kommentaar - Ek kan nie hierdie artikel in goedertrou aanstel met die huidige aantal bronne/verwysings nie. Ek sal in die komende weke die artikel deurlees met 'n aantal bronne langs my en dit dan byvoeg indien die inligting strook. Anrie (kontak) 09:05, 13 Junie 2009 (UTC)
• Gekant - Die artikel is alles behalwe volledig. --Voyageur (kontak) 15:40, 21 Junie 2009 (UTC)

Wringkrag

Ondersteun baie mooi. hansjoseph (kontak) 16:42, 16 Maart 2009 (UTC)

Ondersteun — Adriaan90 (Bespreking • Bydraes) 14:50, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Gekant - Bronnelys? Anrie (kontak) 09:19, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Ekonomie van Suid-Afrika

Sperdatum:
16 September 2009

• OndersteunInterresting article, mooi artikel, many references, good lenght, not too long or too short, and doesn't have many rooi skakels.--Ben Bezuidenhout (kontak) 15:46, 16 Augustus 2009 (UTC)
• Gekant - Jammer, maar die artikel is nie volledig nie: mens sou die indruk kry dat Duitsland die belangrikste (en naas Brittanje die enigste) internasionale handelsland is. Niks word gesê oor België, Japan, Sjina, Italië of die VS nie - en dit terwyl die ekonomie op internasionale handel gebaseer is. Die effekte van die elektrisiteitkrisis word nie genoem nie en drie verskillende werkloosheidsyfers word gegee. Anrie (kontak) 08:31, 20 Augustus 2009 (UTC)
  • Maybe a little bit more work?--Ben Bezuidenhout (kontak) 08:35, 20 Augustus 2009 (UTC)

Ongelukkig is hierdie artikel nie bygewerk sedert my bogenoemde besware nie. Ek beskou die nominasie as onsuksesvol. Anrie (kontak) 11:00, 18 Oktober 2009 (UTC)