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NG[wysig bron]

The Dutch Reformed Church, consisting of 10 synods, has 880 000 communicant members (adults) and 248 000 baptised children in 1162 congregations in South Africa, Namibia (44), Botswana (1), Zimbabwe (14), Zambia (1) and the UK (1), which are served by 1626 ministers and 34 597 church council members. "Gemeentes" are "congregations" in English. Refer to: [1] Morne (kontak) 09:49, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Kiëv[wysig bron]

A church is a "kerk" in Afrikaans. Not a "kirk". Please use a dictionary or a spell checker. BTW: The Firefox spell checker is great and one can instantly switch between Afrikaans and English (or any other language for that matter). Best regards. Frank (kontak) 07:54, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion, i'll neither use the online dictonaries on my userpage or my parents (fluent afrikaans speakers), i will notice the mistakes i make if you edit them, i always look at the 'recent changes' page and while find out what i need to improve on every time. --Bezuidenhout (kontak) 14:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Naamveranderinge in Suid-Afrika[wysig bron]

Die meervoud van dam is damme en nie dame nie! Groete. Frank (kontak) 11:06, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

So what do i need to change?
Ag, moenie my tyd mors nie, jy het dit dan nou net reggemaak! Frank (kontak) 11:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
sorry, i didn't get what you ment at first :( Bezuidenhout (kontak) 11:14, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Hurry up[wysig bron]

You'll have to keep up with me! Winston (kontak) 17:55, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Making changing categories easier[wysig bron]

Hi, Ben

Try installing HotCat - it'll make your life a lot easier as far as categorising and recategorising is concerned. Go to Voorkeure -> Gadgets. Choose <gadget-HotCat> and then "stoor voorkeure". Then try it out. Anrie (kontak) 14:32, 11 Oktober 2008 (UTC)

Categorising[wysig bron]

I'll do Limpopo and Mpumalanga quickly. Anrie (kontak) 15:01, 11 Oktober 2008 (UTC)

OK, im still struggling with the western cape. By the way, do i include voorstede into the Kategorie:Stede en dorpe in die Wes-Kaap?? Bezuidenhout (kontak) 15:02, 11 Oktober 2008 (UTC)
Hmm... not entirely sure. If it's really a suburb and not an independent town/city, I suppose it should be categorised under the city it's a suburb of (i.e. "Voorstede van..."). Anrie (kontak) 15:05, 11 Oktober 2008 (UTC)
Ill give an example: Durbanville. what would that come under? Bezuidenhout (kontak) 15:07, 11 Oktober 2008 (UTC)
I guess it should go in Kategorie:Voorstede van Kaapstad, which in turn should be in Kategorie:Kaapstad (which in turn should be in Kategorie:Stede en dorpe in die Wes-Kaap). BUT I can also understand that someone might argue for Durbanville to be in Kategorie:Stede en dorpe in die Wes-Kaap. Anrie (kontak) 15:11, 11 Oktober 2008 (UTC)

Beeld:Suider-Afrika Kaart2.jpg[wysig bron]

Hi, Ben

Today's conversations took place all over this Wiki, so I just wanted to make sure you're up to date:

  1. Regarding Beeld:Suider-Afrika Kaart2.jpg: did you really create it yourself? "Create", in this instance, means draw it from scratch, not scanning it from a book. Please make it clear on the image's description page which is the case.
  2. If you did not draw/paint it yourself, you need to acknowledge the author/source (in other words, the book/website you got it from).
  3. Most images are subject to copyright, meaning that it is not allowed to reproduce them (as we're doing here) without explicit permission from the author. Since Wikipedia is a free encyclopaedia and we don't want our users to worry about such things, we can only accept certain "copyleft" images. These images usually have a special license (see here for some well-known ones we allow), or they have been released/fallen into the "public domain". The vast majority of books (including the images and texts they contain) enjoy full copyright, as do most websites. Certain websites have started to embrace free licenses, but you need to make sure of it. If you can't find mention of a specific free license, then you must assume the work retains its full copyright.
  4. For an image to be chosen as image of the week, it must have already achieved featured status at the Wikimedia Commons. See Commons:Commons:Featured pictures for all the featured pictures they have so far. You can also nominate new pictures for featured status, or support the nominations of others. Any picture that has been awarded "featured picture" status on the Wikimedia Commons can be used as a "beeld van die week" at this Wiki.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask it here. Anrie (kontak) 09:49, 25 Oktober 2008 (UTC)

Nominating an image for featured status[wysig bron]

Hi, Ben

For "image of the week" users are invited to pick any one they like from the featured pictures at the Wikimedia Commons. If you want to use a picture such as Image:OrangeRiverUpington.jpg, which doesn't have Featured Status, you can nominate it at the Commons. Please note the guidelines before nominating. The reason we do it this way is

  1. to encourage interaction between the encyclopaedia (Wikipedia) and the image server (Wikimedia Commons)
  2. to have a large audience with a wide range of expertise available who can nominate/support these images. This way "Featured Status" is more select/elite.

Sometimes a nomination goes well, as these of mine did 1, 2 and 3, but it often happens that you don't gather enough support, as with this one, which is still one of my favourite pictures. Anrie (kontak) 15:46, 27 Oktober 2008 (UTC)

To add, in regard to Image:OrangeRiverUpington.jpg, you should know that because of the amount of spectacular images of sunsets (Image:Sunset may 2006 panorama.jpg, Image:Reflected sunset.jpg and Image:Crepuscular ray sunset from telstra tower edit.jpg to name a few), other pictures of sunsets are held against very high standards when it comes to new nominations. I also forgot to add that you should feel free to ask if you have any questions, but that should be a given by now. Regards, Anrie (kontak) 16:00, 27 Oktober 2008 (UTC).

Welkom[wysig bron]

Dankie! :-) --Jewbask (kontak) 00:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguity pages[wysig bron]

Hi, Ben

Welcome back! Agree with you on the subject of escargot....

Regarding disambiguity pages ("dubbelsinnigheidsbladsye"): if it only contains red link, they usually get deleted without discussion. If you could create a stub on at least one of the cities on the list at Freetown, for example, it would validate the list's existence. Regards, Anrie (kontak) 20:51, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Capital letters[wysig bron]

Tip: only use a capital letter if you would've used a capital letter in English also. In other words: beginning of sentences and "proper" nouns, i.e. names of places/people/etc. Not with regular nouns, like "elektrisiteit" and "kilometer".

The only place Afrikaanse varies from English in this case is with titles: compare "Fiela's Child" with "Fiela se kind" (only the first letter of the first word is capitalised). Regards, Anrie (kontak) 21:42, 5 Desember 2008 (UTC)

dankie[wysig bron]

;) --voëltjie (:> )=| 21:10, 18 Desember 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back[wysig bron]

Hope you had an enjoyable holiday! Anrie (kontak) 20:16, 28 Desember 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! hope your christmas was fantastic too! i'm ready to edit pages about english countys, but before i start, whats the afrikaans words for 'county'.--Bezuidenhout (kontak) 21:16, 28 Desember 2008 (UTC)
A British county is a "graafskap". An American county is a "distrik". The county of London for example, is "graafskap Londen". Anrie (kontak) 21:29, 28 Desember 2008 (UTC)

Bronnelys[wysig bron]

Hi, Ben

If you want to make a Bronnelys (a list of general sources) you can do it in many different ways. One easy one is like this

*''Name of book'' (year of publication). Author. Publishing company.

For example:

*''Penelope Ody (1994). ''Kruie: Die natuur se medisyne.'' Kaapstad: Human & Rousseau.

This will give


  • Penelope Ody (1994). Kruie: Die natuur se medisyne. Kaapstad: Human & Rousseau.

If you want to add a direct reference ("verwysing") for a specific fact, you can do it in the following manner:

Dele van Mars se poolkappe is aan die afneem.<ref>NASA (20 September 2005); Webster, G.; Beasley, D.: [ ''Orbiter's Long Life Helps Scientists Track Changes on Mars'']. Verkry op 2007-02-26.</ref>

This will show as

Dele van Mars se poolkappe is aan die afneem.[1]

You then need to create a heading called "Verwysings" at the bottom, followed by the template {{verwysings}}, like so:


This will show as


  1. NASA (20 September 2005); Webster, G.; Beasley, D.: Orbiter's Long Life Helps Scientists Track Changes on Mars. Verkry op 2007-02-26.

I hope this helps to explain things a bit. Let me know if you still have any questions. Anrie (kontak) 20:29, 9 Januarie 2009 (UTC)

Deleting discussions[wysig bron]

Hi, Ben

We don't simply delete discussions here: everything is archived (you'll notice that Byeboer promptly put it back as well.

For these type of discussions, unsuccessful nominations are moved to Wikipedia:Onsuksesvolle_voorbladnominasies. This is a handy list for people who don't want to start a new article from scratch, but rather want to improve existing articles till they're "voorbladstatus". For example, I originally opposed the nomination of Maanlanding because it didn't have any sources listed. Later (when I had the time), I went and looked for sources and then added them to the article. After which we promoted it. Hope this makes it clear. Anrie (kontak) 09:01, 11 Januarie 2009 (UTC)

To add: I also wait two weeks or so before moving a discussion to Wikipedia:Onsuksesvolle_voorbladnominasies. Anrie (kontak) 09:02, 11 Januarie 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about deleting them, i thought i could because i was being stupid when i added them. But i now realise 'how it works'.--Bezuidenhout (kontak) 09:06, 11 Januarie 2009 (UTC)
You weren't being stupid - far from it. You won't believe the amount of really stupid things I did in the beginning, before I got the hang of things. Anrie (kontak) 09:07, 11 Januarie 2009 (UTC)
But can I still delete some of 'my talk' on this page, every now and again, just to clean it up, or should i preferably just leave it? --Bezuidenhout (kontak) 09:09, 11 Januarie 2009 (UTC)
I know of a user who does, but then you're also deleting other people's comments, which isn't ideal. A better way is to archive it: every now and then I archive the oldest discussions on my talk page to a subpage, such as Gebruikerbespreking:Anrie/Argief2Junie2007 (just cutting and pasting). Of course you can call your subpage anything you want. Then you can link to it from your talk page. Anrie (kontak) 09:12, 11 Januarie 2009 (UTC)
Moving the discussion page will keep the history. Correct me if I'm wrong. Byeboer (kontak) 09:35, 11 Januarie 2009 (UTC)
(Ek gaan bietjie Afrikaans praat...) Wanneer daar slegs gedeeltes van 'n bladsy geargiveer word kan dit moelik raak om die hele bladsy te skuif en dan weer goed terug te plak, dus word die gesprekke wat geargiveer word wel geknip en geplak. Dis is dan egter nodig om in die wysigingsopsomming te noem waarvan en waarheen jy knip en plak. Sien byvoorbeeld die wysingsopsommings by [2] en [3]. Mense wat dan (soos ek soms moet) in die wysigingsgeskiedenis gaan rondsnuffel, weet dan presies op watter bladsy om te gaan kyk en, a.g.v. die datums na elke persoon se handtekening, by watse datums om te soek. ('n Soortgelyke proses word ook gevolg met die versmelting van artikels, ens..) Anrie (kontak) 09:44, 11 Januarie 2009 (UTC)

Perm[wysig bron]

Hierdie wysiging is inderdaad korrek (this edit is correct).  — Adriaan90 (Bespreking • Bydraes) 09:39, 24 Januarie 2009 (UTC)

Jou skuiwe van Kent na Kent, band[wysig bron]

Hallo, ek is ontevrede oor jou skuif van Kent na Kent, band. Ek voel jy moes die kwessie eers op die besprekingsbladsy bespreek het. Ek weet jy probeer "bold" wees, en dit is ook goed so, maar laat my toe om besware te lug. Die artikelnaam wat jy gekies het was bo alles verkeerd; ons gebruik nie die woord "band" in die ensiklopedie nie - dit is omgangstaal en ons hou by "musiekgroep" of 'n sinoniem wat reeds in die vaktaal ingeburger is. Verder is die formaat van » naam, beskrywing « nie volgens konvensie nie, maar eerder moet die verklarende woord tussen hakies gestel word. Dit is die swaarste van my besware. Ander kleinighede is die hoop dat jy met die skuif 'n artikel oor die graafskap in Engeland gaan skryf, andersinds bestaan daar geen dubbelsinngheid nie en kan die musiekgroep onmoontlik "minder belangrik" as 'n graafskap in Engeland wees waarvan die artikel nie eens bestaan nie. Verder is dit soms ongerieflik vir gebruikers wanneer bladsye geskuif word waaraan hulle werk. Dit is iets wat ek gereeld gedoen het, totdat ek sélf voor wysigingskonflikte te staan gekom het. Ek verstaan dus jou situasie, en dis hoekom ek vir jou my beswaartjies verduidelik. Met al hierdie in ag geneem, glo ek dus dat dit altyd die beste opsie sal wees om sulke skuiwe eers op die besprekingsbladsy te bespreek — daarmee sal jy altyd sekerheid verwerf. Maar dankie vir jou moeite en ek glo jou daad was "in good faith" (no headaches over it).  — Adriaan90 (Bespreking • Bydraes) 17:07, 28 Januarie 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about messing that up, I did mean good, it's just I found that other wikipedias in non-english languages also wrote band and so ignorantly of me I assumed that it would be the same. --Bezuidenhout (kontak) 17:42, 28 Januarie 2009 (UTC)
Sure, don't worry about it.  — Adriaan90 (Bespreking • Bydraes) 17:46, 28 Januarie 2009 (UTC)

Deitsche[wysig bron]

Hallo Bezuidenhout, jammer ek het sooooo lank geneem om te antwoord. Beste groete -- Pieter-ZA (kontak) 03:11, 5 Februarie 2009 (UTC)

Nice work[wysig bron]

Hi, I just wanted to say "well done!" with the maps you made for Demografie van Suid-Afrika. Also, I see you got the hang of choosing an image for "Beeld van die week". Feel free to pick more, if you feel like it. Anrie (kontak) 12:22, 7 Februarie 2009 (UTC)

Baie dankie Anrie!=D --Bezuidenhout (kontak) 12:24, 7 Februarie 2009 (UTC)

Thanks[wysig bron]

Just wanted to say thank you for your work on all the towns and cities - they are starting to look very good! Anrie (kontak) 20:10, 6 Maart 2009 (UTC)

Baie dankie Anrie! I appreciate how you've helped me on this Wikipedia journey, and I hope to move on to Mpumalangae articles next ^^.--Bezuidenhout (kontak) 20:20, 6 Maart 2009 (UTC)

This might cheer you up[wysig bron]

Your hard work paid off... it just took a few months for them to get around to move it. Anrie (kontak) 21:34, 9 Maart 2009 (UTC)

=D thanks (once again) anrie! You are always there to help me ^^, - Bezuidenhout 07:14, 10 Maart 2009 (UTC)

DANKIE[wysig bron]

helpen gij mij goed in Afrika? alsjeblieft

Dank u, u bent goed voor Wikipedia,

Gelieve ook kijken naar de nieuwe tekst 17:49, 23 Maart 2009 (UTC)

Please[wysig bron]

Please help Wikipedia for good in Africa! Please look after, I believe in the abuse of power when "Torsten Amft"! Is that good and honest for Wikipedia Africa ? Delete and block without discussion? 15:03, 24 Maart 2009 (UTC)

Beeld van die week[wysig bron]

Haai, Ben

Jy hoef nie eers 'n beeld te nomineer nie. Jy kan bloot 'n nuwe sjabloon skep soos jy met Wikipedia:Voorbladbeeld week 8 2009 en Wikipedia:Voorbladbeeld week 6 2009 gemaak het. Die beeld wat jy wil laat wys (FirePhotography.jpg) is reeds 'n featured picture by die Commons, so daar is mos nie probleme nie. Anrie (kontak) 21:35, 26 Maart 2009 (UTC)

Skuif / skuif[wysig bron]

Hi, Ben

Just to help you along:

  • Skuif: (verb, but can be noun also) Move
  • Skyf: (noun) Disc

Also, it is "skuif kategorie" (move category), but "kategorie geskuif" (moved category)

Cheers, Anrie (kontak) 14:44, 6 Mei 2009 (UTC)

Baie dankie Anrie! --Bezuidenhout (kontak) 15:17, 6 Mei 2009 (UTC)
Yes, can also write "skuiwe" which is the same verb as "skuif". Ek skuif / Ek skuiwe. Some people speak like that, it's a personal choice but it carries no difference in meaning (as far as I know). — Adriaan90 (Bespreking • Bydraes) 19:36, 6 Mei 2009 (UTC)
Are both appropriate as the other? So would it be the same to say Kategorie geskuiwe (moved) and then Skuiwe Kategorie (move)? --Bezuidenhout (kontak) 20:08, 6 Mei 2009 (UTC)
Yes, both are equally correct. I am not entirely sure but I feel that "skuif" with the f is more common, though. Maybe it's a regional thing, but it doesn't really matter anyway. — Adriaan90 (Bespreking • Bydraes) 20:11, 6 Mei 2009 (UTC)

Saoedi-Arabië[wysig bron]

Sorry about the editing war myself. I didn't realize you were editing while I was! I chose some conventional Afrikaans spelling for some of the placenames in Saudi Arabia because the other names were taken directly from the Dutch Wikipedia and I have no Afrikaans source to tell me how these words should be spelt. Maybe you have an atlas at hand that shows the names of the well-known places, such as Riad (vs. Rijaad) ^^  — Adriaan90 (Bespreking • Bydraes) 14:41, 25 Mei 2009 (UTC)

Hallo, please can U Translate in Afrikaans en:Campora San Giovanni[wysig bron]

(Message from the discussion page Campora San Giovanni)I kindly ask you help to translate in Afrikaans the article on my village native, in how much destination of tourists is sudafricani and some of you/they have picked up them you fixed abode actively collaborating with the community both the afrikanders and the coloureds. To every way if I will receive this courtesy, I will reciprocate you the courtesy that you will do me, translating an article of your pleasure in Italian, Sicilian, Spanish, Frenche, Venetian, Piedmontese. Most important is english basis ♥ Thanks of heart for the patience and the understanding--Lodewijk Vadacchino (kontak) 14:05, 23 Junie 2009 (UTC)

Well, write this, u can help me? thank u for alls patient and understanding♥--Lodewijk Vadacchino (kontak) 16:32, 14 Julie 2009 (UTC)

mit -> met[wysig bron]

Try contacting Arno, about the Autowikibrowser. I know he used it to update the infoboxes in all the animal articles and said it saved him a lot of time. Anrie (kontak) 16:12, 21 Julie 2009 (UTC)

Having a go with it now, let's see if it works. Anrie (kontak) 16:21, 21 Julie 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Anrie, i was wondering how he did it so fast :o Ben Bezuidenhout (kontak) 16:47, 21 Julie 2009 (UTC)
Well, I think I got them all now - the rest of the "mit"s the search found were either "MIT" (the university) or, indeed, the German "mit", used in filenames, sources and quotes. Anrie (kontak) 16:50, 21 Julie 2009 (UTC)
Thank you so much Anrie! I think that I need to learn how to use AuWiBr (AWB sounds horrible) to give other people a break. --Ben Bezuidenhout (kontak) 16:57, 21 Julie 2009 (UTC)
I agree that it might be useful, but I'm afraid I don't often have the time (read: patience) to learn how these things work. Not sure how I just managed to do it now, either. Anrie (kontak) 16:59, 21 Julie 2009 (UTC)

Auto Wiki Browser[wysig bron]

Hi Ben,

Die maklikste om te begin is (vir v4.60):

  1. Teken in deur AWB (File -> Login)
  2. Stel die blaaier dat dit die afrikaanse wikipedia gebruik (Options -> Preferences -> Site, stel language na "af").
  3. Onder "Makelist" op hoofblad kies "Category" en tik dan bv. "Rugby" in die veld onder dit.
  4. Kliek op "Makelist" knoppie.

Nou sal daar 'n lys verskyn met al die blaaie gelys onder kategorie:rugby.

Onder die "tabs" net regs hiervan kan nou vele opsies gekies word om uit te voer op die lys. Bv. "Find and Replace" deur 'n algemene spelfout reg te maak ens.

Speel dan maar bietjie daarmee en lees gerus ook hier.

Arnobarnard (kontak) 14:20, 27 Julie 2009 (UTC)

Dankie Arno! I'll have a play around on Afrikaans Runescape wiki and test things it there. :) Ben Bezuidenhout (kontak) 14:56, 27 Julie 2009 (UTC)

Russian flag[wysig bron]

Wow, thanks. I didn't know how to fix it. Winston (kontak) 13:55, 30 Augustus 2009 (UTC)

It's a pleasure. --Ben Bezuidenhout (kontak) 17:25, 30 Augustus 2009 (UTC)

Trzeszczyna[wysig bron]

Hi! Would you be so kind as to check this short article and correct any mistakes? Thanks :) Timpul (kontak) 19:06, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Hai[wysig bron]

Hey, thanks for creating stubs for the articles I place =] E.g. Augsburg for Anajo. I really appreciate it and it makes me realize someone is proofreading my work! Thanks! — Adriaan90 (Bespreking • Bydraes) 19:06, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome :) --Ben Bezuidenhout (kontak) 20:05, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
And thank YOU for fixing my poor grammar Afrikaans :D --Ben Bezuidenhout (kontak) 20:07, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
It's no problem ^^ — Adriaan90 (Bespreking • Bydraes) 20:10, 15

September 2009 (UTC)

Nedersetting Bladsye[wysig bron]

Hallo Ben,

Ek sien jy is besig om 'n paar artikels oor S.A. Dorpe te skryf. In plaas van om die dorp inligting in 'n tabel te plaas gebruik asseblief eerder die Sjabloon:Inligtingskas Nedersetting. Ek het Kaapmuiden vir jou verander as voorbeeld. Sien ook Ladysmith, Kwazulu-Natal as voorbeeld van die gebruik van die sjabloon.

Dankie vir die baie werk.

Arno (kontak) 07:37, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Skryfwedstryd[wysig bron]

Crystal wp.png Jy is ingeskryf vir die 2009 Wikipedia-skryfwedstryd
Jy is aangemeld vir die 2009 Wikipedia-skryfwedstryd, met "Surrey" as gekose onderwerp.
Jy mag tot 31 Desember aan die artikel werk by Surrey, of, as jy eers bietjie wil eksperimenteer, kan jy dit doen by Gebruiker:BenBezuidenhout/Argief/Sandput.

Die volledige reëls rakende die wedstryd kan by Wikipedia:Skryfwedstryd gelees word. Vrae oor die wedstryd self kan by Wikipediabespreking:Skryfwedstryd gestel word, terwyl meer algemene vrae oor Wikipedia by die Geselshoekie beantwoord sal word.

 — Adriaan (Bespreking • Bydraes) 22:46, 10 Desember 2009 (UTC)

Rune Scape[wysig bron]

Haai, Ben

Die artikel Rune Scape, wat deur jou geskep is, was nou al 'n tyd lank met die {{gaan taal na}}-sjabloon gemerk en is dus vanoggend geskrap. Ek het die inhoud egter na Gebruiker:Africa South/Rune Scape gekopieer, ingeval jy verder daaraan wil werk en dan weer terug wil plaas. Groete, Anrie (kontak) 09:44, 6 Maart 2010 (UTC)

Baie Dankie Anrie, it's on my to-do-list :) Ben Bezuidenhout (kontak) 09:48, 6 Maart 2010 (UTC)